The Japan Ground Self-Defense Force have a self-propelled version of the MO-120 RT with 50 rounds, the Type 96. Showing the limits of short range weapons, Havrylov pointed to the Javelin surface-to-air(My note, should be anti tank missile), shoulder-fired missile as an example. Its not a good thing. Based on the TDA 2R2M (Rifled Recoiled Mounted Mortar) in French service, it is a fully automated mortar capable of using rifled or smoothbore 120mm ammunition. Most turreted versions can do both indirect & direct fire. The GAZ-66 prime mover also transports the ammo load: 24 70 81mm between 100m 5.6K and 120mm out to around 9K variant dependant. Significantly developed at Telford, the BOXER mortar module can also serve as an example of the creation of sovereign intellectual property as part of Rheinmetalls strategic vision in support of the UK MoD and wider economic prosperity agenda. Despite guided weapons Thus, no spin is imparted to the projectile in flight. Yes, it can be broken down into parts. More than likely, it will be we need that module active now, what can we afford to loose?. An early requirement was that the system had to be a 120mm system to give sufficient lethality and range. The Boxer variants being procured for the UK are meant to replace Mastiff and Husky MRAP Vehicles and are regarded as APCs. It is mainly issued for body armor used by the German police, but also for the German armed forces and civilian available body armor. So far over 320 mortar systems have been manufactured for the U.S. Army. Hi Ian, at this point it will be difficult to tell. That out of the way, Mortars are pretty simple, there is a fixed firing pin at the bottomRead more , Thank you. Mortar Tracked Carrier A variant of the Bronco All-Terrain Tracked Carrier, the Mortar Tracked Carrier (MTC) is jointly developed by the SAF, DSTA and Singapore Technologies Kinetics. The plan was to have them as part of the fleet but I dont think any specific order has been placed for them. The Indian Army is the land-based branch and the largest component of the Indian Armed Forces.The President of India is the Supreme Commander of the Indian Army, and its professional head is the Chief of Army Staff (COAS), who is a four-star general.Two officers have been conferred with the rank of field marshal, a five-star rank, which is a ceremonial position of great "Sinc Because the Dragon Fire II contains its own GPS positioning system and pointing system (the Honeywell 5000HG Ring Laser Gyro) and on-board SINCGARS FM radio, it was also capable of controlling other like weapons, with the potential of one designated "Master Gun" controlling multiple other Dragon Fire Mortars in a synchronized manner. How does the mortar shoot out the tube? In France, the mortars which originally equipped infantry regiments, have now all been transferred to the artillery regiments, where they augment the 155mm towed artillery. The crew of four are able to operate in both day and night in all weather conditions, with a 270 degree rear firing arc. Cool. (Light Infantry) Back many decades ago. It would be interesting to know how the range and kill zones compare between the two versions. 22 RE and 26 RE ( Perham ) are shown with 12 and 20 BCTs, fine, with the armour. RBSL Managing Director Colin McClean said in a press release: This Boxer Mortar Mission Module, which was unveiled at DSEi last year, has been a UK lead design and development programme. The first customer of the weapon system was the Slovenian Army,[2] which ordered 12, while the United Arab Emirates Naval Forces bought 12 patrol boats, where some were to be equipped with NEMO mortars. Not expecting them to take a load of modules along on low loaders forRead more . Its mission is to provide heavy weapon, high-angle organic indirect fire support to the unit commander. The US Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory (MCWL) started a Concept Demonstrator project in 1997. In 1992, they received from USA 200 M113A2 APC, 25 M106A1 mortar carrier, 10 M577A1 command and control vehicles and 16 M548A1 cargo carriers. or the other way around? They would surely have enough to transport around as it is! The battalion level vehicles are armed with the RMS6L 120MM mortar system, which is the vehicle mounted version of the RMS6L 120MM mortar. More please, Not sure the Boxer has any haters beyond the numpties in the top brass who pulled out in the first place , About 6 months ago I was surprised how many on here were expressing how they were unimpressed by it, technically, concept or simply cost related. However, the NEMO offers significantly more capability as it can be fired for both the direct and indirect requirements. The 57mm equates to the old 6 pounder. Would it not make sense to replicate that by design now if the supporting vehicle, ABSV, MRVP, whatever, is cheaper and allows the main Boxer asset concentrated in more fighty roles? "The holding will call into question many other regulations that protect consumers with respect to credit cards, bank accounts, mortgage loans, debt collection, credit reports, and identity theft," tweeted Chris Peterson, a former enforcement attorney at the CFPB who is now a law CM-22 Mortar Carrier for 107mm/120mm mortar . I am a hater :o) i think it is too expensive but the biggest problem is model choice that BA have done. Possibly, though theres 32 RE too. 76mm equates to around 14 pound shell weight. Has the British army actually ordered this or is it just a British design module? These are all well known well respected companies. Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan, "Elbit Systems to supply Israeli Army with Cardom mortar systems for approximately $40 million", "Elbit Systems to supply Israeli Ministry of Defense with Cardom 120mm mortar artillery", "Report: Elbit Systems to Upgrade M113 APCs for Philippine Army", "Elbit Systems won contract to supply CARDOM 81 mm autonomous recoil mortar for Spanish Army", Cardom mortar system on defense-update.com, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cardom&oldid=1113995176, Military equipment introduced in the 2000s, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox weapon with unknown parameters, Articles containing explicitly cited English-language text, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 4 October 2022, at 07:35. It seems expensive, heavy, difficult for air-mobility due to aforementioned weight, and non-amphibious. It no accident that the USMC use licenced built versions (I think we have bought the L119 from the US?). In fact, knowing UK procurement I suspect buying 20 bespoke mortar carriers would end up being more expensive than buying 20 Boxer Mortar modules. Are we going to see more modules than vehicles? Yeh, I think that would be a good idea. The difference is role however, 120mm mortar would require a new type of sub-unit and a new type of role, requiring a new doctrine. The system provides accurate and effective fire support. Quite like the 40mm L70. (Ironically Boxer was later selected to meet the FRES UV remit.). Very unsophisticated and it has been possible to fire mortars under armour for years.The 120mm AMS (Armoured Mortar System) was developed as a private venture by Royal Ordnance plc and Delco Systems. The MO-120 RT (factory designator) or MO-120-RT is a French heavy mortar.The RT in the designator stands for ray, tract, which means rifled, towed.The MO-120-RT is currently used by the French Army (where it is known as RT F1 or Mortier de 120mm Ray Tract Modle F1"120 mm rifled towed mortar, model F1"), and has also been exported to more than 24 foreign But it wasnt my part of ship, so I feel a tad anxious about commenting on too much The 81mm is very good at what it does and a swept up mortar team can/does cause havoc. Thanks. If the Russians dont light up the drones, the drones can carry on hunting for the artillery. 1 1L271 portable mortar locating reconnaissance radar: (1, captured) 1 P-18T: (1, destroyed) Jammers And Deception Systems (18, of which destroyed: 10, damaged: 2, captured: 6) Warrior had 432 alongside it for other roles so Boxer needs a cheaper partner vehicle too. I suspect youd find theyd be in RA Batteries rather than within infantry battalions, but you never know, might be a conops for using them in mechanised/armoured formations? Supacat? I knew that the 2 x Stike bdes had gone away (that didnt last long) but surely Strike is still somewhere in 1st Deep Recce Strike Bde. Clearly there will be a bit of push back from MMM especially in the light role regiments, Para/Cdo forces, but if it can be dismounted as well then hopefully that can compensate for some of the possible arguments about shanksys pony being able to go anywhere. Mortar Tracked Carrier A variant of the Bronco All-Terrain Tracked Carrier, the Mortar Tracked Carrier (MTC) is jointly developed by the SAF, DSTA and Singapore Technologies Kinetics. The project was initiated in 2002, but, not long afterwards, TDA dropped out of the project because of issues concerning sharing of design information and their price, and when Marine Corps Systems Command made it known that it would be looking for an "off the shelf, commercial system" for the EFSS requirement, the system specifications for the Dragon Fire II were de-scoped to Concept Demonstrator and the budget was reduced. He also works for the NHS. The info I found on the newer 81mm & the light weight vehicle trial in the US was on a YouTube channel (battle stations, I think?) The Cardom is an autonomous, computerized system for mounting on light and medium armored carriers. The system provides accurate and effective fire support. This is not a comparable outlay to two dozen mortar carriers. We are really excited about the international interest in this new BOXER capability and look forward to working with customers to meet their individual needs.. The mortar carrier (MCV-B) entered service in August 2005. Boxer is very expensive, the army want it,Read more , Of course economics played a part in it, it was penny pinching that lead to the failure to purchase a modern mortar carrier, like it lead to the failure to purchase a modern ambulance. The UK make very good lightweight, all terrain vehicles, so it wouldnt be beyond the realms of possibility for us to come up with a viable solution I wouldveRead more . L16 81mm Mortar: Mortar: 81mm United Kingdom: Built under license with the ordnance by Howa. The only reason Warrior had 432 alongside it though was because Warrior replaced 432 as the prime armoured trooptransport, and 432 support vehicles where already in service. We could do better as theres better on the market, that can be fitted to a Boxer module, such as the NEMO system. Principally because a section can carry the tube, bipod, baseplate and ammo shared amongst the troops. Thanks for the info. Amos Records, an independent record label established in Los Angeles, California, in 1968; Amos (band), an American Christian rock band Amos, an album by Michael Ray; Amos, a 1985 American made-for-television drama film; People and religious figures. This unit does not appear to offer that. I mean its not exactly a large number of vehicles right? Additionally, they carry the 81mm M252 mortar that can only be used in a dismounted capacity. As it turns out, AMOS is indeed capable of firing standard muzzle-loaded mortar rounds, but these require a short stub case at the base of the fins, like a sabot, which is ejected after firing. Almost certainly. Am I right in saying the British Army has never used that calibre? You can carry more rounds and less collateral damage in urban environments. Interesting to read the thread above, thanksRead more . [3], In November 2016, Elbit Systems announced it was awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (ID/IQ) contract for the production of the M121[4]. modp.gov.pk. Designed to traverse difficult terrain, the Bronco has a ground pressure of 60kPa and is fitted with heavy-duty seamless rubber tracks and a running gear system for soft ground conditions and directional stability. The K6 entered service with the United States Army in 1991 as the M120 Mortar System. Though with the Governments proposed increase to 3% defence budget, who knows? They could then be matched up with Armys concept of operations and the gaps in capability and some contracts issued. Development began in 1985. I do think something like a L119 on a Jackal would be a good idea, but at the same time, evidence suggests that towed isnt dead yet either. Some weapons used by the infantry units, known as infantry support weapons, are often misidentified as artillery weapons because of their use and performance characteristics, sometimes known colloquially as the "infantryman's artillery" which has been particularly Boxer APC does not serve the same role as Ajax and given the MOD / army has not ordered any scout/recon version we dont know what will be chosen yet. Within the Inf we will lose the awesome firepower of the 30mm cannon to be replaced by Boxers .50 MG. . High explosive rounds fired by the M120 weigh about 31lb (14kg) and can have a lethality radius of 225ft (69m).[2]. In the ideal world you would have different mission modules fitted around the world. Another feature of the M120 is the M303 Sub-Caliber insert, which allows the mortar to fire 81mm ammunition. NEMO (from "NEw MOrtar") is a single barrelled 120 mm remote-controlled mortar turret currently being developed by Patria Land Oy in Finland.It is a lighter version of the AMOS mortar system, which has been in use within the Finnish Defence Forces since 2013. Or are they more suited at RA Regimental level? Self propelled mortar system China: 14 SR-5: Multiple rocket launcher China: 12 BM-21 Grad: 122mm multiple rocket launcher Soviet Union: 32 BM-14: Multiple rocket launcher: 20 2S3 Akatsiya: 152mm self-propelled howitzer: Unknown 122-HL-70 122mm self-propelled howitzer Laos: 18 PCL-09: 122mm self-propelled howitzer China: 12 M-30 122 mm howitzer Greater accuracy also reduces logistical burdens, as using fewer rounds to destroy one target means a unit can last longer without needing resupply. At present the UK only intends to buy 4 variants of Boxer; APC, Support, C4I and Ambulance. Even the infantry carrying version isnt exactly fighty. Spend time repairing your now broken APC one. Fast moving, hard hitting and quick to deploy/extract is the key as we have seen, and the 120mm wouldRead more . Switching the main gun of a ship from 4.5in to 57mm doesnt change its role, nor does it really need a new doctrine. The turret is fully 360 traversable. [5] The full EFSS was introduced in 2009, consisting of two light vehicles, one towing the mortar and the other an ammunition trailer, that fit inside an MV-22 or CH-53E Super Stallion; an EFSS battery is made up of roughly 50 Marines. It would also mean we would have to operate two types as 120mm would probably be too heavy for Para and RM. Newegg shopping upgraded Surely much better to go with your notion in some form, or alternatively buy some Nemo variants off the shelf. That would make it slow to shoot and scoot. It was proposed to develop a "fire on the move" capability for the Dragon Fire II - Light Armored Vehicle (LAV-M) as the first artillery system to fire accurately from the moving vehicle but the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab ended long-term development projects and all technology funding was cut. Its quicker to build a boxer module than an equivalent complete armoured vehicle. The Cardom (English: Hatchet) is an Israeli 81 mm/120 mm Recoil Mortar System (RMS), manufactured by Soltam Systems.It is used by the US Army, the Israel Defence Forces, NATO countries, and others.The Cardom is an autonomous, computerized system for mounting on light and medium armored carriers. 120mm though makes one hell of a bang. Heres a crazy idea (wont be liked by some of my Inf comrades) keep the 81mm for 16 BCT and 3 Cdo BCT in the PARA/Cdo Battalions and give 7RHA and 29 Reg a Bty x 8 of 120mm Motars on light vehicles. A variant of the Bronco All-Terrain Tracked Carrier, the Mortar Tracked Carrier (MTC) is jointly developed by the SAF, DSTA and Singapore Technologies Kinetics. This firing demonstration took place on Salisbury Plain and was the first time in which a mortar has been fired from a BOXER. Isnt that part of the USP of Boxer ? Yes it would. Has that changed? Preposition drive modules with a number of the more generic backs on them. That said I suspect you need a giant like Rheinmetall toRead more , I understand that the reason we pulled out of the Boxer project in July 2003 (having joined in 1996) was the realisation that airtransportability was going to be a big issue although the official line was that we intended to focus on FRES. The 120 mm Gun M1 was the United States Army's standard super-heavy anti-aircraft gun during World War II and the Korean War, complementing the smaller and more mobile M2 90 mm gun in service. M106A2 M106A1 mortar carrier modified with a 120mm FM mortar. 80 some thing infantry section vehicles and over around C2. I just cant see a deployed BCT carting lots of spare modules around on a just in case basis. VPAM armor standard (Europe) The VPAM scale as of 2009 runs from 1 to 14, with 1-5 being soft armor, and 6-14 being hard armor. The variant which was in service as a UOR with the UK armed forces is known as the Warthog. Cant be dismounted either, but have a direct fire capability choices! [9] The first vehicles arrived in service to Afghanistan in mid-2010. At the end of the day its just replacing a ship with a different ship. [2] The 120mm rifled mortar PERM round will give the EFSS a reach of 17 kilometres (11mi), with a CEP of 20m (66ft). I cant think how else it works. . Development began in 1985. Thats the whole mantra of the Boxer system. Strike has surely just gone from being a RAC/Inf thing to a RAC/RA thing. Not only that but something like Nemo or Mjolner might be helpful when one of these domestic drones adapted to carry a 40mm grenade comes along. Its maximum altitude was about 60,000 ft (18,000 m), which earned it the nickname stratosphere gun.. NEMO (from "NEw MOrtar") is a single barrelled 120mm remote-controlled mortar turret currently being developed by Patria Land Oy in Finland. Who is protesting this? A light vehicle would not take it. For our needs we seem committed to an expensive base vehicle, and our lifetime expenses will mainly be pay, so go for the best and fit AMOS. The RT-61 can also be towed by the AMX-10 TM (Tracteur de Mortier), which is a version of the AMX-10P tracked APC or the future French Scorpion SERVAL Vehicle. So does the 40mm/L70. The Dragon Fire II was featured in the Discovery Channel's Future Weapons program.[1]. Also the Brimstone can be aimed at a specific part of the ship so it could do serious damage to even large warships, e.g. I read your post & never noticed. 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(Past calibers do not guarantee future purchases. In French service, this weapon is normally towed by the VTM 120 (Vhicule Tracteur Mortier de 120 mm), a wheeled armored vehicle that is a derivative of the VAB 44 series of armored personnel carrier. 1 1L271 portable mortar locating reconnaissance radar: (1, captured) 1 P-18T: (1, destroyed) Jammers And Deception Systems (18, of which destroyed: 10, damaged: 2, captured: 6) Is NEMO like AMOS in the sense that specialist ammo is required for these systems? Based on the TDA 2R2M (Rifled Recoiled Mounted Mortar) in French service, it is a fully automated mortar capable of using rifled or Warrior is on its way out, we have gone with Boxer, for or Mech Inf, but now also to probably replace the Inf that were in Warriors. However this practice is crazy expensive. With Ajax if you buy 300, you have 300 Ajax. I can see us having some spare modules of differing variants not sure if we will have all that many, but who knows, perhaps we may yet be surprised. But far more flexible. Correct mate to my knowledge but as things shape up in future, knowing what we now know due to Ukraine, and the understanding that NATO needs to re-invigorate itself, a 120mm would be NATO standard, and quite cheap for the capability it brings. If boxer operates with 155mm artillery, CH2/3 and 81mm mortar anyway then would a 120mm mortar really be worth it? To my knowledge, both fire a range of 120mm mortar ammo including standard smooth bore mortar ammo. They will need lots of gear. Lives will be lost. The 120mm is a beast. By using the TB2s and other drones as sacrificial bait, HARM equipped Mig29s can then take out the SAM radars, when they illuminate the drones. Fantastic idea!! Dragon Fire is also expected to be effective in a counter-battery role. That means the impact could spread far beyond the agencys payday lending rule. Fixing the weapon in an LAV does not require a separate mount; its towing carriage can be converted to an LAV mount in five minutes. Great via helicopter, but miles ahead of a towed 105 when it comes to scoot & shoot. The 2K25 Krasnopol is a Soviet 152/155 mm cannon-launched, fin-stabilized, base bleed-assisted, semi-automatic laser-guided, artillery weapon system.It automatically 'homes' on a point illuminated by a laser designator, typically operated by a drone or ground-based artillery observer. Discover all the collections by Givenchy for women, men & kids and browse the maison's history and heritage "The holding will call into question many other regulations that protect consumers with respect to credit cards, bank accounts, mortgage loans, debt collection, credit reports, and identity theft," tweeted Chris Peterson, a former enforcement attorney at the CFPB who is now a law The excellent 81mm was always handy and can be lugged by the Troop, so its not a issue. It is fitted to the PATRIA 88, which is dimensionally similar to the Boxer. Krasnopol projectiles are fired mainly from Soviet self-propelled howitzers such as the 2S3 A footnote in Microsoft's submission to the UK's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) has let slip the reason behind Call of Duty's absence from the Xbox Game Pass library: Sony and The heavier 120mm is handy for when you have the luxury of some vehicle to lug it. I do think the bullet will have to be bitten somewhere in the near future though and there will undoubtedly be pushback with the range of 105 compared to the current 120mm and also the fact the US have just built a light tank with one mounted on it, so the ammo may have anRead more , Their are a number of scenarios where a mortar is better than a 105 and the opposite! Boxer is not a replacement for Warrior and neither is Ajax, they are not purposed as IFVs. The mortar capability, combined with BOXERs battle-proven design, also provides a valuable opportunity for UK exports driving prosperity for the UK.. Different ,too see a configuration such as an installed mortar I take it that its munition stowages are fully protected being in such close contact to the mortar, It is exactly the same concept as we have for the 432 mortar carrier today (in service since 1962, I believe). 155mm howitzer module already exists. This article is about mortar system. For the Boxer light/strike/mobility whatever theyre called this week brigades. Fly out specialist backs as needed based on the circumstances at the time? In 1992, they received from USA 200 M113A2 APC, 25 M106A1 mortar carrier, 10 M577A1 command and control vehicles and 16 M548A1 cargo carriers. [8], Single-barrel, remote-controlled self-loading mortar system, "Kranaatinheitinpanssariajoneuvo XA-361-AMOS", "Slovenian Army's New APCs: Patria's AMVs", "Patria develops containerised mortar system", "Czech Republic seeks new 120 mm mortar system", "Patria AMV 8x8 Vehicle and Nemo Mortar System Agreements Signed with Slovenian Ministry of Defence", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patria_NEMO&oldid=1087771010, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox weapon with unknown parameters, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, Standard mortar smoothbore + stub case or smart guided ammunition. Which when found gets taken out by MLRS, HIMRS, FH70 etc. . WR only had 432 for mortar and ambulance roles, because the beancounters wouldnt fund a full set of WR. To an outsider it seems everything army vehicle other than Boxer and Challenger 3 is up for grabs right now. Genuine question and certainly not hating on it; what is it that makes Boxer special beyond modularity with the mission modules? Certainly seeing how imaginative and innovative Supacat have been on various projects in this Century, if sadly many like so much else cancelled over the years, I expect they would have loved to have designed/created something modular of this nature back in the day. Suppose you can. Perhaps a Boxer mounted L119 to keep pace with mech inf. Amos (name), a given name, nickname and surname Technology. CM-26 Command Vehicle CM-24/A1 Ammunition Carrier primer! M113 Defensa Aerea M113 APC with a 20mm Oerlikon GAI-BO1 cannon. 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